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Nero Scuro
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.07 13:02:00 -
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Edited by: Nero Scuro on 07/12/2006 13:03:46
Move all level4 missions to low sec, that would solve the problem. The backlash from the highsec 'bears would be nasty, but it would fix the problem. You'd get less high sec lag, no more making more money in high sec than you do in some 0.0 regions, with more people in low sec, leading to more legitimate piracy and a low sec economy.
Everybodies a winner, cept for the WoW crowd who want to grind to an arbitary database entry in perfect safety for no good reason. Big loss.
EDIT - Bah, somebody said it first. I take too long typing...
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Nero Scuro
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.07 13:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Alex Harumichi
Originally by: Nero Scuro
Move all level4 missions to low sec, that would solve the problem.
I doubt it would. With the current probe system and mission rewards, only brain-dead idiots would run lowsec lvl4s.
If mission rewards were doubled or tripled, then maybe. Or if you could get really good stuff from missions (faction loot, whatever).
But like it is currently? Not a chance.
Fair enough. Nerf the probes then, I think a small nerf is in the works already. Or change the rules. Hell, I'd be happy with pirates being barred from entering other peoples missions full stop if it meant lvl4s were moved to lowsec. It'd make killing missioners much harder (what with wtz when returning from missions and redocking if you're caught when setting out on one) but at least there'd be more traffic.
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Nero Scuro
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.07 13:39:00 -
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Moving level 3 and 4 agents into lowsec will only destroy a large part of the Eve Community. Presently there is nothing wrong with running missions in high-sec space. If thats how an individual wants to spend their time.. Then so be it. It is not our place, or prerogative to tell them that they are Not spending their time in a productive pvp kind of way. In the history of MMO games that have pvp. Many Upon Many people do not want to go PVP. People like content, like the familiar, like to do things that They Find Fun.
The problem isn't forcing PvEers to PvP, it's one of risk vs rewards. I suppose they could reduce lvl4 mission rewards in high-sec, they'd still have just as much 'fun', wouldn't you agree..?
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Nero Scuro
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.07 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Alex Harumichi
Originally by: Nero Scuro
I suppose they could reduce lvl4 mission rewards in high-sec, they'd still have just as much 'fun', wouldn't you agree..?
Umm, they already are greatly reduced. The higher the system sec status, the less the mission rewards are. 0.1 missions give a *lot* more LPs and isk than 1.0. That used to be a working balance for the increased risk you took when moving around in lowsec, and it used to be enough reason to mission in lowsec. Not worth it anymore, though.
It wasn't a serious question. I was just pointing out that all most people find 'fun' about lvl4 missions is the ISK.
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Nero Scuro
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
I do kill gatecamps. There's just no ISK in it, just killmails. Killing RA and Goons over and over while I blow up their T1 ships and mods doesn't line my pockets. You're missing the point entirely.
I'm not inept, it's not that I 'can't' PVP or that I'm some 'carebear pirate'. It's that I kill for maximum profit. Those mission running carebear f#cks are the most profitable targets, hence I follow them. FFS you ppl (you) are stupid. And I'm not being pedantic. Learn the definition of the word.
Liar. You just follow level4 mission grinders around because they're so cool. At least that's what Nanobotter seems to be saying. What other reason would pirates have to be following them around? (OH YEAH! All that isk you get! Stupid, stupid me)
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Nero Scuro
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Teresa Daluca
Bellum Eternus and other pvp "junkies"
ok I may say you are screwed for the fact most people "dont like PVP"
most people playing eve look at pirates as griefers and happy trigger ****'s
Most people DONT want go get there ships blown up and most people dont like paying
for a new clone either and most people dont like the idea of getting there hard saved BPO's got blown up
IT's NOT fun it's realy not fun
O thats right EvE Online is one of the rare space mmorpg games out on the market
we love eve becouse we dont want to play a fairy we like space games. We dont want to get constantly griefed from trigger happy let me say morons becouse I realy ****ed at some people here thinking all people want to destroy everything the look at.
dont ruin the game for us who love eve becouse it's a space mmorpg, and dont loving
blasting up other people property..
Oh jesus...
Ok, so on the one hand we've got people who play this game because it is the only MMO with non-con PvP with consequences for your actions.
On the other we've got people who want to play a MMO exactly like the other 30 on the market only with spaceships instead of fairies.
Brilliant, we'll just give up the last hardcore MMO out there so that you can change it into a clone of all the others for purely cosmetic reasons. THAT'S going to happen.
Selfish little *mutters*...
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